Writer's Support Room - Open Forum Transcripts

3.30.04 Open Forum

Event start time: Tue Mar 30 14:08:33 2004
Event end time: Tue Mar 30 15:16:52 2004


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kristi holl Hello! We'll start in about 5 minutes.
kristi holl Join us this afternoon in the AUDITORIUM-Scheduled Events Room for an "Open Forum" with subbing Web Editor Kristi Holl. Kristi has published 24 novels for middle-grade readers, plus the adult book for writers, WRITER'S FIRST AID. She welcomes your questions on time management, getting started, writer's block, marketing, writing rights, writing earnings, or anything else you'd like to discuss. Bring your QUESTIONS to this open forum.
kristi holl The Tuesday afternoon "Open Forum" will begin promptly at 4 Atlantic/CANADA, 3 p.m. Eastern, 2 p.m. Central, 1 p.m. Mountain, and noon Pacific. While you wait for the "Open Forum" to start, feel free to use your ASK A QUESTION button RIGHT BETWEEN THE YELLOW "MAP" AND THE RED QUESTION MARK IN ICHAT to post some questions for the discussion group—two minutes from now.
kristi holl Good afternoon! Welcome to this Tuesday afternoon's "Open Forum" session. I'm your substitute moderator, Kristi Holl, and the former Web Editor for this site. We're back for an informal time of answering any questions you might like to ask, on any subject. It's always a treat for me to be here. First, please read these announcements, then we'll get started.
kristi holl IMPORTANT INSTRUCTIONS: Send questions you'd like answered or discussed by using your "Ask a Question" icon/button. (It looks like a thought bubble icon, RIGHT NEXT TO THE RED QUESTION MARK.) The moderator (me, Kristi Holl) will post the questions one at a time in the chat room and do my best to answer them. Also note: If you want to make it possible to ask the longest question you can, first type "/ask" (without the quotation marks), then leave one space after the end of "ask", then type as many characters of your question as you can. If your question is not complete, send the second part next, then if necessary the third, etc.
kristi holl WARNING: If you don't post anything at all, SOME of you will be bounced off the system in 15 minutes. TO PREVENT THIS, type something (either a question to the moderator or even a private message) every 15 minutes to stay active and remain online.
kristi holl Hi, everyone! I'm glad to be here.
kristi holl I'm going to hog the spotlight for a minute with some GOOD NEWS of my own. My Army daughter, Laurie, who has been stationed in Iraq for over a year, returned home to us March 13!!! Meeting her at the airport was one of the happiest days of my life. Thank you to all of you who have emailed me over the year with your prayers for her.
kristi holl I have some other good news to share from our viewers..
kristi holl Laurie Klemm: A week ago Monday I received a contract in the mail from The Friend. It was my first story submission ever! The story was from lesson #4 that my instructor had asked me to revise for her. I did that. She returned it to me with a few more suggestions for improvement. I followed some her recommendations, but not all since I am very familiarwith this magazine and have a feel for what they are looking for. I took a chance and just sent it in with a cover letter. I cannot express what a joyous experience this was for me! Thanks to ICL for all the support.
kristi holl Boy this takes me back! Congratulations, Laurie!...
kristi holl I love to hear good news like this, and it's an encouragement to us all!
kristi holl Terri Dunham: Hope you get this in time. I have good news. My picture book, "The Legend of Papa Noel" will be published Oct 2005. And now for the question. I am morphing a song, "She'll be Coming Around the Mountain" in my book. And I don't know how to find out what the copyright is on the song. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
kristi holl First of all, that's terrific news about your picture book!...
kristi holl That's a special skill, and I read a ton of those books now to my granddaughter...
kristi holl To answer the question hafl:
kristi holl http://www.pdinfo.com/ is a reference site to help identify public domain songs and public domain music . . . royalty free music you can use anywhere and any way you choose . . . performance, sing-along, film, video, advertising, business, or personal...
kristi holl Check this site for many helpful links and lists of songs in the public domain that you can use and change. Music and lyrics written by an American author and published in 1922 or earlier are in the Public Domain in the United States. No one can claim ownership of a song in the public domain, therefore public domain songs may be used by everyone...
kristi holl PD songs may be used for profit-making without paying any royalties. If you create a new version or derivative of a public domain song (which I think you are wanting to do), you can copyright your version and no one can use it without your permission. However, the original song still remains in the public domain, and anyone else can also make and copyright their own version of the same PD song.
kristi holl Grandy1983: I am almost finished with the Basic ICL course. In fact, I'm on Assignment 10. Anyway, I've been revising one story over and over, (it's the same story from assignments 6,7, and 9!) but each revision is worst than the last one. I don't know why I'm having such difficulty with this one story, but it's just getting worse each time I revise and rewrite it. Do all good writers have this happen to them? I feel like I'm not very good at writing, but it's what I like to do. I can't help but feel disappointed. What can I do to prevent myself from getting discouraged?
kristi holl First, is it your opinion or your instructor's that the version is getting worse each time? Often we are our own worst judges of whether a piece of writing is getting better or worse. Sometimes, especially after you've looked at and reworked a piece a few times, you can't see the forest for the trees...
kristi holl You could be writing a Pulitzer Prize winner and think it stinks sometimes! I don't think your instructor would let you keep working on this one manuscript so much if s/he didn't see a lot of potential in it...
kristi holl I wish you could set it aside for a month and not even look at it at all, then come back to it fresh and see what you think. I've done that enough times myself to know it works wonders. You may decide it's a wonderful story, or (as I've had happen to me) I've come back to a piece later only to find that the wonderful piece I had written needed several more go-rounds of revision. A clear eye--and perhaps that of a critique partner--can be invaluable.
kristi holl Judy: I'm currently teaching "Writing for Children" (for adults) at Elizabethtown College. Last week, one of my students asked if there is a "rule" about using name of character and tags - should it be "John said," or "said John" or can they be mixed? My response was what I had been taught - state the name first, then the tag. Any thoughts? Also, I know editors prefer "said" as a tag, but my students wondered what others might be acceptable - (My answer was words that give meaning to the way something was said - "yelled," "asked," "exclaimed" - but to avoid
etc. as tags.) What's your thinking about that?

kristi holl The first part of your question you've been answering the way editors prefer: name first, then the tag. The "said Sally" and "asked John" tag sequence has gone out of style, at least for now, and using it can make your writing sound dated...
kristi holl About the second question: editors today prefer that you stick to "said" and "asked" about 90%+ of the time. You're right in saying NOT to use tags that are physically impossible to do. (We can't "shrug" or "grin" our conversation at someone.)
kristi holl But use the variations sparingly, or you'll end up with Thesaurus Syndrome, which is very distracting to the reader. That's where dialogue is peppered with he screamed, she reported, he extrapolated, she remarked, he pontificated, she explained, and (I swear this was in a student assignment) he ejaculated.
kristi holl Rcmbkt: Could you briefly explain what non-exclusive rights are? I have a possible sale of an article with pictures, and they want all rights to the photos. I am thinking if I can sell them non-exclusive rights, they can use the photos over and over, but I can still use the photos elsewhere with a different article. Is that correct? Also, I haven't seen the transcript to Tuesday's (the 23rd) Open Forum. I cannot get to the forums, but do read the transcripts faithfully.
kristi holl I am subbing, so I can't tell you about last week's transcript, but about the rights: non-exclusive rights means you are selling rights to those photos to more than one (maybe many) magazines...
kristi holl It doesn't necessarily mean they can use the photos as many times as they please though. You can sell non-exclusive one-time rights, or non-exclusive reprint rights, etc...
kristi holl You can certainly ask about the rights, but if they insist on all rights, your sale may hinge on it. You will have to decide for yourself how much that particular publishing credit is worth. Some are worth giving up all rights, but (to me) some aren't.
kristi holl I don't know if this is how Mel usually does it, but I am posting the previously submitted questions first, in case anyone wondered...
kristi holl Jean: Mel, my question is this. Is this web site and the information given
and grads, or may we share this address with, say, SCBWI friends and members? The information taught by these wonderful authors could benefit many a novice and the seasoned writer as well. Perhaps the awareness of ICL could generate enrollment
kristi holl When I first designed this website six years ago, it was with ALL writers in mind, and it has always been that way. The information presented in the forums and interviews and articles is for anyone to read who finds it helpful. It's not just for students. And if it generates enrollment too, that would be great!
kristi holl Rosenetka: I'm from Canada and was wondering how would one calculate how much postage to place on an SASE to an USA publishing company or magazine for information and samples etc.?
kristi holl If you're a student, this information is located in the 2004 Children's Magazine Market on Page 26 and in the 2004 Children's Book Market on Page 47. The charts give the ounces and number of pages for figuring that amount, and tells the amount going back and forth between the US and Canada. If you need stamps for your SASE's, you can get what you need from the Stamp Fulfillment Service Center at 800-782-6724. If you don't have these books, call your post office.
kristi holl Linda Della Donna: I have difficulty keeping up with all the reading, magazine subscriptions, homework assignments, research information, on-line chats, critiques, etc. and still do my writing. Is this just me? Can you tell me, do you belong to a children's writers e-loop? Do you feel it is necessary/priority to belong to such a group? And is it okay if in the course of getting the writing done, a writer goes off-line and does just that?
kristi holl Not only is it okay to get offline and get your writing done, it's the ONLY way you'll get it done. Writers today have the advantage of the Internet, email groups, and tons of writing information at their fingertips. But it can be a disadvantage if it's not properly managed...
kristi holl I visited my daughter for a week this month and didn't have Internet or email access, and I was stunned at how much more I got done and (even more important to me) how much more relaxed I felt. I can't really explain it, but having no access to the online community felt like "the good old days" of using my crummy typewriter, all by myself with my broken keys and White-Out. And I loved it!
kristi holl If it makes you feel any better, under my desk at this moment is a stack (16 inches high--I measured) of magazines, newsletters, etc. that I am behind in reading. One rule I have followed since coming home was not to check email before I got my writing done. That helped tremendously. But today's computer age writers face Information Overload, and if you don't call a halt and just write, you may never get any writing done.
kristi holl Cup: I have a question that you might be able to answer. I have a stash of 9 x 12 envelopes that sealed themselves when they were stored in our damp basement. Is there any way to loosen them up short of trying to steam them open?
kristi holl Now THIS was a fun one!...
kristi holl It depends on the type of envelope. If they are regular ones (not bubble-filled padded ones) then you can gently press an iron on the sealed end, then pull them apart and let them dry open. Or (IF they don't have any metal in them or bubble wrap) you can nuke them in your microwave for a few seconds and peel them apart. If you nuke a cup of water for several minutes first, you add some moisture in there that helps too.
kristi holl Featherpen: I will not be able to attend the forum tomorrow but I do have a question. How much to first time authors make on a picture book? I am asking out of curiosity. I know writers do not make a lot in salary.
kristi holl This will sound like a waffling answer, but it depends on so many factors. It depends on whether you are publishing with a small regional press or a big NY publisher. It depends on the length of your picture book sometimes too. If it's only a few words (like many board books that have only 10-20 words) your illustrator will probably get a bigger cut...
kristi holl If your picture book is more like 500+ words, you still have to split your advance and royalties with your illustrator, usually 50/50. I know picture book writers who only got for an advance, but I know some (who are well published now) who get more than for one. (And that's just the advance against future royalties.)
kristi holl RealityCzech asks: When a market guide listing notes that a book publisher accepts submissions from "previously published authors only," what must those authors have previously published? (Sorry to sound like the woodchuck chucking wood here!) Does publication in a magazine count in this case, or must one have published a book in order to have their MS. Considered?
kristi holl Definitely magazine publication counts, as well as books. What DOESN'T count with editors are letters to the editor you had published in your local paper, or self-published work of any kind, or things you "published" on your own web site. If you were paid for it, count it as a publishing credit. Certain other high quality publications, like Ounce Upon a Time, can be used as credits, even though you get paid in copies.
kristi holl Lea: Could you list all of the different sources of information (ex: email sites, etc.) that we need to have permission for in order to use in our stories to be published?
kristi holl If you are only quoting a small portion, you don't need to get permission to quote. Some say you can quote up to 250 words without permission, but I think that's pushing it. The copyright law is vague on that point...
kristi holl But if you use very small quotes, and give the credit either in the body of the article or in a bibliography at the end, you'll be okay. Check the copyright notices when in doubt. Some of the websites will say "no part of this can be copied without written permission." Books, magazines, newspapers, websites--it applies to them all.
kristi holl And the last presubmitted question is...
kristi holl Please help me decipher! What is "high concepts" for the middle grades? (as in "We're looking for good writing married to high concepts with marketable commercial hooks" )
kristi holl I am afraid I don't know. I think that's very vague. I'm sure high concepts is the opposite of "slight" but more than that, I'm not sure...
kristi holl I knew we have published writers in the room today who might be able to answer this...
kristi holl if you know, submit it like a question and I'll post it so it gets into the transcript.
kristi holl For those of you who joined us after we started, this is an "Open Forum" session where you are free to ask any writing and publishing questions you have, and your moderator (Kristi Holl) will do her best to answer them.
kristi holl WARNING: If you don't post anything at all, SOME of you will be bounced off the system in 15 minutes. TO PREVENT THIS, type something (either a question to the moderator or even a private message) every 15 minutes to stay active and remain online.
kristi holl IMPORTANT INSTRUCTIONS: Send questions you'd like answered or discussed by using your "Ask a Question" icon/button. (It looks like a thought bubble icon, RIGHT NEXT TO THE RED QUESTION MARK.) The moderator (me, Kristi Holl) will post the questions one at a time in the chat room and do my best to answer them. Also note: If you want to make it possible to ask the longest question you can, first type "/ask" (without the quotation marks), then leave one space after the end of "ask", then type as many characters of your question as you can. If your question is not complete, send the second part next, then if necessary the third, etc.
tkat_2 How do you handle writer's block?
kristi holl It's been so long since I had it, I will have to think back...
kristi holl the problem I have these days is finding the time to get the words down instead of being blocked...
kristi holl but it used to plague me, I found I most often needed a break...
kristi holl I just got more blocked staring at a blank page...
kristi holl I lived on the farm at that time, so I'd go outside and pick a few weeds or walk the horse or pet a cat...
kristi holl that usually worked...
kristi holl I had a friend who, when she was blocked, made herself...
kristi holl do housework and dishes, which she loathed...
kristi holl and she said it was the surest cure for writer's block she had!
cjbawriter How much does a first sale usually bring in dollars, average
kristi holl I don't know what the average would be, but it's low...
kristi holl my first article sale was a whopping ten dollars, but I couldn't have been happier if it'd been a thousand...
kristi holl well, that's a lie--a thousand would have bee nice. 8-)...
kristi holl but I'll never forget the thrill of knowing some editor "out there" thought I had something worth saying...
kristi holl and it was worth its weight in gold for firing me up to face more rejections.
lasmithm2000 if i want to write articles for a magazine or paper how
kristi holl Sorry, that's all that came through on that one.
grandy1983 Hi, Kristi! About how many words should a chapter for a middle-grade novel have?
kristi holl About 25,000 is the average book length, and about 1,200 is about the average chapter length. But it can vary.
craig Ms. Holl I have been impressed with you from the first time I read the first chapter and art textbook that is sent to us when we begin the course. I would like to know how I can keep in contact with you or get in contact with you because there are some things I would like to talk to you about in relation to the course.
kristi holl The easiest way to get in touch with me is through my website at www.KristiHoll.com and it has contact info there.
kristi holl I'm sorry--and thank you for the kind words about the chapter!
realityczech I just joined a writing critique group. Any advice for how to word critiques so as to be helpful without hurting other writers feelings? I've heard about sandwiching critisism between compliments, but what else can I be mindful of?
kristi holl That's an excellent technique you mentioned...
kristi holl I usually like to make critique remarks in the form of a question, like...
kristi holl "Have you considered telling this from the little girl's viewpoint?" or...
kristi holl "Do you think you might consider moving this scene to chapter two in order to pick up the pace in chapter one?"...
kristi holl That always seems to go over better than "I think you ought to change the viewpoint" etc....
kristi holl and it gives the correct impression that you're just making a suggestion, rather than telling them what to do...
kristi holl Another thing you can say is...
kristi holl "I can see why you did it this way. Another way I've seen it handled is...."...
kristi holl or "I've seen in writing magazines that it's good to have the flashback
kristi holl material later in the story...
kristi holl Anytime you can word things like this, it sounds less critical, although you're saying basically the same thing.
ccollier Welcome Back Kristi, In the last issue from OUAT, it gave
ccollier Texas as your home, did you move
kristi holl Yes, last summer AND ask me how far I now live from our 21-month-old granddaughter? Just seven BLOCKS! I am a happy Nana!
rite 1 What helps me is to do a brainstorming - start with one word - then bubble out with what it makes you think of etc.
kristi holl I believe this is to help answer the writer's block question.
kristi holl For those of you who joined us after we started, this is an "Open Forum" session where you are free to ask any writing and publishing questions you have, and your moderator (Kristi Holl) will do her best to answer them.
kristi holl WARNING: If you don't post anything at all, SOME of you will be bounced off the system in 15 minutes. TO PREVENT THIS, type something (either a question to the moderator or even a private message) every 15 minutes to stay active and remain online.
kristi holl IMPORTANT INSTRUCTIONS: Send questions you'd like answered or discussed by using your "Ask a Question" icon/button. (It looks like a thought bubble icon, RIGHT NEXT TO THE RED QUESTION MARK.) The moderator (me, Kristi Holl) will post the questions one at a time in the chat room and do my best to answer them. Also note: If you want to make it possible to ask the longest question you can, first type "/ask" (without the quotation marks), then leave one space after the end of "ask", then type as many characters of your question as you can. If your question is not complete, send the second part next, then if necessary the third, etc.
lisalisa Any ideas on how to speed up a critique group? My group's
lisalisa progress is extremely slow, and I'm feeling like almost the
lisalisa only one who posts stories anymore. Any suggestions?
kristi holl That can be very frustrating, and it slows your own growth as well...
kristi holl I have never done the online critique group thing, but I've been part of four or five "live" groups over the years...
kristi holl I am FINALLY in one (done through email) where everyone is working daily and we are very active...
kristi holl in the previous groups I didn't have any luck "jump starting" slow groups, although I tried...
kristi holl The first three died by attrition, and I just moved on to start another group...
kristi holl we had degenerated into talking about recipes and kids, and that's not what I was there for...
kristi holl I would suggest that if you can't get people moving more by talking frankly about it...
kristi holl that you'll be better off finding another group or starting one yourself, which is what I always ended up doing.
rapidmath Do many students send in their homework in e-mail or normal
kristi holl This must have "glitched"--I got five copies of this question. 8-) To answer...
kristi holl the percentage of students who submit assignments via email is small, probably less than 10-15%...
kristi holl but I expect it will go up...
kristi holl many instructors are set up to receive and edit lessons online, if that's what you wish to do...
kristi holl Ask if your instructor does online submitting and editing...
kristi holl and if you can switch, if you want to...
kristi holl If it's an extremely important issue to you, and it is to some people, you can transfer to another teacher if you ask.
sweet_muse I love Writer's First Aid. It applies to all writers not just children's writers. I never had much access to a computer when you ran this site, but I am so pleased to meet you now. Thanks for doing such a great job!
kristi holl Thank you so much! The articles from the early years of this website are what I gathered and revised for the book...
kristi holl and it's a good reminder to ME sometimes of what to do...
kristi holl Occasionally I'll be stumped, and I will think, "You know, I used to know what to do in this situation..."...
kristi holl and more than once I've pulled out my own book and read a chapter...
kristi holl especially as I move into babysitting a toddler again and things like that...
kristi holl and need to remember how to do many things at one time, as you parents of small children do every day...
kristi holl But thank you for the kind words. I do appreciate hearing that the book is helpful.
tkat_2 I find that the closer my assignment deadline is, the better
tkat_2 I manage my time.
kristi holl Yes, isn't that true?...
kristi holl You've hit on the power of deadlines to boosting us into high gear...
kristi holl I think that's one of the best reasons to have self-imposed deadlines if a teacher or editor isn't waiting on something from you...
kristi holl and if that doesn't work for you, a weekly critique group...
kristi holl who is expecting some writing every week--and prods if you are slack--is a godsend as well.
kristi holl For those of you who joined us after we started, this is an "Open Forum" session where you are free to ask any writing and publishing questions you have, and your moderator (Kristi Holl) will do her best to answer them.
kristi holl WARNING: If you don't post anything at all, SOME of you will be bounced off the system in 15 minutes. TO PREVENT THIS, type something (either a question to the moderator or even a private message) every 15 minutes to stay active and remain online.
kristi holl IMPORTANT INSTRUCTIONS: Send questions you'd like answered or discussed by using your "Ask a Question" icon/button. (It looks like a thought bubble icon, RIGHT NEXT TO THE RED QUESTION MARK.) The moderator (me, Kristi Holl) will post the questions one at a time in the chat room and do my best to answer them. Also note: If you want to make it possible to ask the longest question you can, first type "/ask" (without the quotation marks), then leave one space after the end of "ask", then type as many characters of your question as you can. If your question is not complete, send the second part next, then if necessary the third, etc.
rite 1 how do you get a "live" critique group together? ideas?
kristi holl I tried several things that worked...
kristi holl one group I started by going to a regional/state SCBWI meeting...
kristi holl and at the end, I stood up and said I was new and where I was from...
kristi holl and asked anyone interested in forming a group to see me at the social thingy they had afterward....
kristi holl we got a good group that way...
kristi holl Another time I posted a note on the library community bulletin board...
kristi holl There was a good turnout for that one, but it was more dabblers than working writers...
kristi holl and (I have to be careful how I say this now that I'm a grandma too) but...
kristi holl there were a lot of old ladies who came who had too much time on their hands..
kristi holl Over the years, I have found SCBWI the best contact source...
kristi holl I used the roster to find names of writers in my area and contacted some...
kristi holl Those are just some of the ways I've used.
kelmar I have an idea for a poety book, but have never been published before, is there any chance to get it looked at by a publishing house or should I wait to be published in say a magazine first?
kristi holl I will give a disclaimer first here: I've never published poetry...
kristi holl but no, you don't have to be published first in a magazine for that...
kristi holl (Thank you, rite 1--I should have spelled that out)...
kristi holl If the writing is good and polished and neatly presented...
kristi holl and you submit to a house that takes queries or unsolicited manuscripts...
kristi holl you have as good a chance as anyone...
kristi holl it's just that when you're an unknown, the response time is slower, so be prepared to be patient.
grandy1983 Kristi, I am on assignment 10 now, and my relationship with my instructor is winding down. However, I feel some of her letters and her editing comments throughout the course were rather harsh. Criticism and suggestions are fine, but it's how she worded her comments that made me feel like a poor writer. I had revised one story three times, and each revision was worst than my last. It also seemed she was disappointed. Now, I feel slightly discouraged. How do I get past this?
kristi holl If you feel comfortable at all doing it, I would suggest letting the teacher know your feelings...
kristi holl I know I certainly would want to know if my comments had been discouraging to my students instead of encouraging...
kristi holl One thing we all have to do sooner or later is learn how to be our own cheerleaders...
kristi holl There are also some excellent books available that you might find really helpful right now...
kristi holl like Ralph Keyes THE WRITER'S BOOK OF HOPE or
kristi holl THE ARTIST'S WAY by Julia Cameron...which is a recovery book for writers, and both are excellent. I think you'd love them...
kristi holl find them used on amazon.com and save money!
lisalisa But in a remote area, how do you do that?
kristi holl I think this must refer to getting a critique group together...
kristi holl if so, the things I did were all done when I lived on a farm outside a tiny Iowa town of 1500, well less actually...
kristi holl and I did have to drive to the nearest big town about half an hour away to get to the library ...
kristi holl but if you're VERY remote, maybe an online group or email exchange is what you'll need. I love mine.
realityczech the critique group I joined is very structured. Specific points are discussed in a timed format for each person's MS. The moderator keeps time and says, "Now we will discuss viwepoint. Now we will discuss dialog. Now we will dicuss character development." It is extremely well organized, and everyone gets equal time/equal say.
kristi holl Her style might not suit everyone, but would be MY dream critique leader...
kristi holl especially the part about equal time for everyone...
kristi holl that inequity can be a discouraging thing to people who are quiet or not pushy, if there is a talkaholic in the group.
realityczech I believe you are on staff for the Chatauqua Writer's Conference in NY this summer, correct? Has ICL ever sponsored scholarships for Chatauqua for any students? At what point should one be in one's writing career before investing in a conference such as Chatauqua?
kristi holl Yes, I will be teaching there again in July, and I don't know that ICL has ever sponsored a scholarship there, although they believe strongly in Kent Brown's work there...
kristi holl the first time I went, I went on a partial scholarship myself,...
kristi holl so if you're wanting to apply for one, write to Chautauqua and get an application--it's soooooooooo worth it...
kristi holl I wish I had gone much earlier in my career--if I had known about the scholarships, I would have...
kristi holl If money is not a problem, go as soon as you can...
kristi holl There's nothing quite like it.
brisk What is SCBWI
kristi holl Society of Children's Book Writers and Editors at www.scbwi.org
kristi holl Goodness I just checked the time...
kristi holl It goes just as fast as it used to!...
kristi holl I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed this hour and connecting with you all again...
kristi holl Things have improved since I worked here!...
kristi holl I didn't get knocked off ONCE, which is a blessing...
kristi holl some of you remember THOSE good old days!...
kristi holl Thank you again for all your good remarks and questions and kind words about Laurie...
kristi holl You're the best! Have a terrific week.
kristi holl You're all very welcome.

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