Writer's Support Room - Open Forum Transcripts

Event start time: Tue Aug 31 14:19:52 2004
Event end time: Tue Aug 31 15:25:29 2004


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mel boring I have some GOOD NEWS to get us started:...
mel boring GOOD NEWS from Terri Hoover Dunham: I have some good news. I just sold a poem to "Wee Ones." It will appear in the Jan/Feb 2005 issue.
mel boring CONGRATULATIONS, Terri! WEE ONES is a very prestigious byline for you, and a credit that will do you GOOD!
mel boring I also have a question from last week that I promised to find an answer for by today....
mel boring I was still TRYing today, when Chippy came to my rescue!...
mel boring Here are the question AND Chippy's answer:...
mel boring remus' QUESTION from last week: I was wondering if there is a book like the ICL Book Market Guide that has listings of British, Irish, Australian and other International publishers?
and editors, there is a book called ARTISTS AND WRITERS YEARBOOK 2005 (the edition is right now). It is updated every year. Amazon has it on their UK site. I hope this helps the person who wanted to know about editors etc., on Tuesday's Open Forum. MEL'S RESPONSE:
the day for me! P.S.: I have discovered that there is ALSO the CHILDREN'S WRITERS' AND ARTISTS' YEARBOOK 2005, available at the same UK site!

mel boring Great info, especially since there is a CHILDREN'S edition of that book
mel boring Here is a THOUGHT question from samscratch for you to think on:...
samscratch Is there no one that knows how fairy dust is made??????
mel boring Send me your answers via the question box, please!
brigitsmom I have a question relating to website linking - what are the legalities of linking to a website without the approval of the owner of the written material?
mel boring Good question, brigitsmom!...
mel boring There are no particular "legalities," since the Internet is in such a "pioneering" state that none have been developed, as far as I know....
mel boring But let me answer that from our ICL point of view....
mel boring Many people and organizations ask to link with our ICL Web Site....
mel boring and we would need to check each one out thoroughly to make sure it is a good "link" with ours....
mel boring For example, if a site wanted to link, we said yes, and they began to sneak in pornography, that would not be a good situation....
mel boring And it would take one person nearly full time just to check every web site out that wants to link....
mel boring So we have replied no....
mel boring I can't help but think that OTHER sites may say no for the same reason, not knowing about the other site they'd be linking to....
mel boring DEFINITELY seek the owner's permission BEFORE you link, brigitsmom, is a strong rule of thumb--and whole hand!...
mel boring Each web site belongs to its owner(s), so they have the right to say yea or nay to linking.
george kulz if I have a piece waiting to be published at a magazine, at what point should I send another piece to the same magazine?
mel boring George, congratulations AGAIN for your recent sale to SPIDER!!!...
mel boring You should not send the magazine another piece UNTIL you have heard back about the previous one....
mel boring Soon as they say NO, or YES, it's the time to submit another....
mel boring Especially if they have said YES, they might be looking for another submission from you.
mel boring Here are some deLIGHTsome answers to samscratch's fairy question:...
catlady Fairydust is made by fairies and they don't like to tell.
brigitsmom Fairy Dust is made from the flakes of skin of fairies that suffer from horrid psoriasis..
gladys1 fairy dust is made from faries of course. lol .....
gladys1 first though yuo have to find the fairy
catlady Think of things that fairies like and that might be what it
catlady is made of.
chippy Fairies collect gold dust from the stars
mel boring GREAT answers, and THANK YOU, samscratch for a really FUN question!...
mel boring Any more answers? Please keep on sending them!
brigitsmom I guess I need to clarify - found out that a commercial publisher has included an article that I wrote fron an online ezine in their links section - it has been on their website for almost 2 years - what do I do?
mel boring GOOD clarification, friend!...
mel boring If you LIKE the publisher that is linking to your article,...
mel boring then it can't hurt you, brigitsmom....
mel boring provided you feel they are a "safe haven" for their link to you....
mel boring If you OBJECT to their doing it, first e-mail them and ask them to remove it....
mel boring It IS, after all, YOUR writing, and they must remove it if you ask....
mel boring If they DON'T, then I would write them by snailmail and ask....
mel boring Then telephone, if you know the number....
mel boring But the secret is PERSISTENCE.'
mel boring Ladybird39pm needs to know: I have written an article all about the characteristics of an ostrich. I have put it in a fiction story (eg: the kids reading this will imagine they have gone to Africa to visit a wild ostrich site. The driver discribes the ostrich's personality and the kids also see the features and characteristics of the wild ostrich.) All the facts about the ostrich are true. Would I call this fiction of nonfiction?
mel boring What you describe would TECHNICALLY be "faction," Ladybird, fact + fiction....
mel boring But it would be treated as NONfiction by a mangazine, because the FACTUALness is what predominates, and the reason they want to use it....
mel boring BUT, let THEM figure out what they want to call it....
mel boring On your manuscript, don't label it EITHER fiction or nonfiction. They will decide, and LIKE to be able to decide.
mythchild I sent an article submission to seventeen
mythchild it has been 3 months and I have heard from no one
mythchild weeks ago I sent a query to Teen People
mythchild regarding the same article, what if I don't here form them
mel boring Here is a multi-part question:..
mel boring from mythchild, of which you've heard the first four parts. Here's more:...
mythchild My article is nonfiction by the way,
mythchild I am submitting it for a MY LIFE or TRUE LIFE topic,
mythchild I did call and e-mail seventeen but no one answers calls
mythchild I mean no one returns calls and I can never get the editor
mythchild to whom I sent it to, and she never answers e-mails or
mythchild messages that I leave just to ask if it was received
mel boring THANK YOU for the patience with which you submitted your question, mythchild!...
mel boring First of all, if SEVENTEEN says it's return time is 3 months,...
mel boring and I see in the ICL market book they say, "Response time varies,"...
mel boring So you were probably OK in submitting just a query to TEEN PEOPLE....
mel boring Look to see if you can find out the response time of the teen magazine, mythchild....
mel boring and when it's past their query response time plus about two weeks, then you can query another magazine....
mel boring I'm sorry you haven't gotten ANY answer of ANY kind from SEVENTEEN....
mel boring They are TOP DRAWER among magazines, and they probably have more submissions than they can use,...
mel boring so they can afford to ignore us, and that is a situation that has to be lived with....
mel boring Besides, SEVENTEEN is mostly STAFF-written, so they depend on freelancers for very little....
mel boring I would suggest you follow up on TEEN PEOPLE, if you don't hear from them soon....
mel boring Also, it always pays to have three magazine choices when you start submitting, so you can go from one to the other, if need be....
mel boring Find another three markets for it, mythchild.
brigitsmom would it be a good "in" to get them to consider a manuscript/book idea etc? Hi.. my name is ... and you have a link to my article on ... on your website... how would about takign me on as a writer... lol
mel boring Yes, that sounds like a good strategy, brigitsmom,..
mel boring and they certainly would consider a book idea if they've linked to your article! Let us know how it comes out, please.
mel boring M wants to know: Is it okay to submit the same article/manuscript simulatenously to a number of editors?
mel boring It's always OKAY to QUERY more than one editor at a time, M....
mel boring But for sending a MANUSCRIPT, you need to find out if they accept simultaneous submissions....
mel boring So if you have six editors who ACCEPT simultaneous subs, YES, you could send it to all six at once...
mel boring With editors who do NOT accept simsubs, you'll need to decide and submit accordingly.
mel boring LM E-Mailed us to ask: What exact issues would be considered contemporary for young adults! I am a new student of the Institute and my children are 4, 6, and 8 and they are my inspiration for writing. Although I would really like to write about the issues pertaining to the young adult
need to define the context of "contemporary."
mel boring Here is a question I could use ALL of your help with....
mel boring I would start by saing that issues would be some obvious ones,...
mel boring alcohol and other drugs,...
mel boring sexual activeness,...
mel boring what profession or job they want to take up eventually,...
mel boring how to study least and still learn the most,...
mel boring ANY problem they face, which YOU remember facing as a teen, LM.
george kulz So if I send a second story to Spider, should I mention the first one to them or will they already know? BTW, it has not been slated for an issue of their magazine yet.
mel boring YES, by all means, george, mention your previous sale to them....
mel boring although I think Heather Delabre there WOULD remember your name!...
mel boring Or she MIGHT remember the TITLE of your story. But yes, mention it by title.
gladys1 could a second article be completely different ....
gladys1 than the first
mel boring I didn't get any more parts for your question, gladys1,..
mel boring so I'm going to guess that you meant could one article be completely different for a different AGE GROUP?...
mel boring YES, it could, and would HAVE to be different for a different age group...
mel boring For example, an article about giraffes for the 2-4's might just have a 4-year-old SEEing a giraffe at the zoo....
mel boring But a giraffe article for the 8-12's could entail the facts about their necks and other body parts, more detail and deeper than for the younger set.
spotslover2 Wouldn't Ladybird's story be what they are calling creative
spotslover2 nonfiction?
mel boring GOOD point made, spotslover2!...
mel boring You prolly won't hear the term "faction" today,...
mel boring but you will hear "creative nonfiction."...
mel boring In fact, though made-up dialogue used to be TABOO, now they're making it up in SOME books and calling it "creative dialogue."
mel boring More about fairies for us children's writers!...
delima-e look in your back yard for fairie/ mushroom circles
mel boring THANKS, delima-e!...
mel boring By the way, I am intrigued by your username, friend....
mel boring SOMEday, I think it would be fun to have people share how their usernames were chosen and what they mean to them!...
mel boring For example, at some sites, I am BoringMel, for obvious reasons!
mel boring Here's another answer about the fairies that I LOVE:...
gingerpye Fairy dust is 3 parts glitter to 1 part honey, mixed well and sun dried on Summer Solstice. Used exclusively by fairies in all seasons but winter when nature makes a similar, more short-term variety.
mel boring THAT sounds like the makin's of a STORY or BOOK, gingerpye!
mythchild TEEN PEOPLE has no response time in the market book
mythchild SEVENTEEN published REAL LIFE articles on real people
mythchild I'm just wondering why they can't say whether I sent it to
mythchild the right person or if it was received
mythchild I know submitting to SEVENTEEN was a long shot
mythchild but because real subjects are used I thought my topic
mythchild would have a place or consideration
mythchild TEEN PEOPLE didn't have a phone number or address, how can I
mythchild contact them?
mythchild Emergency, must go, but thanks for answering the first quest
mel boring It looks like TEEN PEOPLE and SEVENTEEN might "leave you hanging forever" without an answer, mythchild....
mel boring And your REAL LIFE article would seem just right for SEVENTEEN....
mel boring Here is the probable answer to why you haven't heard from THEM:..
mel boring They likely receive ZILLIONS of submissions for FEW spots in their magazines,...
mel boring and they have a surprisingly SMALL staff....
mel boring So they just do what they consider the ESSENTIAL stuff...
mel boring and let the rest slide, unfortunately....
mel boring and it won't HURT them a bit!...
mel boring If TEEN PEOPLE doesn't list a phone,...
mel boring try phoning information in the city or town where they are....
mel boring If that fails, all you can do is send them a registered letter, one they must SIGN for,...
mel boring and at least you'll know if they received it or not....
mel boring Here is maybe the "bottom line," though, mythchild:...
mel boring If they really WANT to buy a story or article, they WILL...
mel boring contact the author. So, with big magazines, sometimes "silence is a no."
mel boring Here's another longie:...
lisalisa Is it ever appropriate to do a status query by mail on a
lisalisa query letter? I know the editor I sent a query to has left
lisalisa this particular publisher. I had received a very personal
lisalisa rejection from her on a different ms, but now that she's
lisalisa gone, do I need to worry whether it was passed on?
lisalisa How long should you wait to status check after receiving the
lisalisa "yellow card" from Spider?
mel boring Yes, it IS appropriate to check on the status of a QUERY by mail, lisalisa....
mel boring ESPECIALLY if the editor you addressed is gone....
mel boring Perhaps no one is answering the "gone one's" mail....
mel boring WRITE them, I would, lisalisa, and ASK the status of your manuscript...
mel boring Send your letter by some traceable US Postal method so you'll know if they get it....
mel boring OR, find out where the editor has moved to, and address the editor at their NEW place with the manuscript....
mel boring As for SPIDER's yellow card, I would wait as much as 3 months in SUMMER, because things slow down....
mel boring For example SPIDER's editor is in South Africa right now, attending the IBBY conference....
mel boring In the FALL, WINTER and SPRING, I would wait only 2 months before inquiring, perhaps just one month.
caq If a magazine publishers your manuscript, will they send you
caq a copy of the magazine your article appears in?
mel boring They MIGHT, caq, but might not....
mel boring Usually they state in the market book whether they do or not....
mel boring I know that CRICKET just habitually sends 3 or 6 copies of the issue with your piece in it...
mel boring The BEST thing to do is just ASK them if they will or won't, and offer to BUY some of they don't.
omalizzie I've got a story published in a highschool reunion yearbook.
omalizzie does this count as "published" in the eyes of others?
christa I would say contemporary issues could be anything from....
christa making friends with the new kid to war and politics.
mel boring THANK YOU, christa, for a very wise answer!...
mel boring What you said covers a WIDE gamut of issues, from neighborhood to WORLD-wide....
mel boring And that says that ANYthing could be a contemporary issue for kids.
spotslover2 Scholastic's new imprint "Push" deals with contemporary teen
mel boring problems?, spotslover2?...
mel boring What a GREAT tip for the asker of that question--THANK YOU!
chippy In childrens writing can you use an adult protagonist, or
chippy should you only use a child?
mel boring Usually a CHILD, chippy, but adults are SOMEtimes used,...
mel boring but if so, the story must involve CHILDREN mainly....
mel boring That's a hard trick to pull off, but it CAN be done.
delima-e why don't editors like using rhyming poems
delima-e why is it so hard to write, when poem writing fo me is easy
delima-e for mythchild "Sharice Williams is the publisher's
delima-e assistant?Office manager phone
delima-e I have the seventeen magazine Oct, 2004 issue
mel boring GREAT help, delima-e!...
mel boring Could you send that phone number along here, so that...
mel boring anyone could read it in the transcript, please?
mel boring By the by, here's dilema's explanation of the username:...
delima-e always having one delima or another
mel boring HA, sounds familiar!
mel boring I want to save your question about poetry, delima-e...
mel boring and answer it in next Monday's announcement about the Open Forum--it's a GOOD one, thanks!
mel boring People, I'm going to have to stop, and I'm as sorry for me as for you....
mel boring I will look for you NEXT Tuesday, and THANK YOU FOR YOUR INSIGHTS AND QUESTIONS TODAY!
mel boring One P.S.:Here's the phone number of the Office Manager at SEVENTEEN Magazine:...
delima-e it's 1-866-858-2154

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