Writer's Support Room - Open Forum Transcripts

Event start time: Tue Dec 09 14:09:34 2003
Event end time: Tue Dec 09 15:16:47 2003


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mel boring Good afternoon! Welcome to this Tuesday afternoon's "Open Forum" session. I'm your moderator, Mel Boring, and the Web Editor for this site. We're back for an informal time of answering any questions you might like to ask, on any subject. So feel free to ask what's on your mind--and I'll tell you what's on mine! First, please read these announcements, then we'll get started.
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mel boring It may be all the winter storms, but things seem very s-l-o-w on my part of the INternet today--how about yours?
mel boring I have a GOOD lot of GOOD news to tell you about today as we begin:...
mel boring First of all, jer
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mel boring is a special Christmas poem written by Becky Crum:...
mel boring Becky Crum's Christmas Poem:

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mel boring AND CONGRATULATIONS, Becky!!!
mel boring Here's some OTHER GOOD News:...
mel boring t green shared: I wanted to share that I made my VERY FIRST EVER SALE this last week! I sold my children's devotion to KEYS FOR KIDS! I'm bouncing off the ceiling, I'm so excited! I'm not sure when exactly it will be published, but they sent me a check. They didn't send a contract or anything, just the check. Walking on air for the next couple days.

mel boring We're walking on air WITH you, t green--HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS!
mel boring GOOD news, from Barb Cairns, who just returned from a Caribbean cruise: My latest writing news is a contract with McGraw-Hill for a language book. YEA! It's due out early in 2005.

mel boring HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS to you, too, Barb!!!
mel boring GOOD News from Mary Jo Shannon, Roanoke, VA: I recently sold two nonfiction articles to POCKETS -- one will appear in the May issue and the other in July, 2004. I also have a devotional in the January/February 2004 issue of DEVOZINE.
mel boring WAY TO WRITE RIGHT, Mary Jo--CONGRATULATIONS from all of us!!!
mel boring GOOD News from Julia L. Nielsen: My young adult novel PAULA'S CHOICE: ON THE WINGS OF FAITH will be published early next year by PublishAmerica. It is the first in a triology of Paula's Choice.



mel boring CONGRATULATIONS to you, Julia, and MANY HAPPY RETURNS (and sequels)!!!
mel boring GOOD News from Jacqueline Adams: Cricket has accepted my article, "Saved by the Ark." This is my second article with them.
mel boring Jacqueline, HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS to you from all of us!!!
mel boring Here is a question about something I've been promising to tell you, but have held off till today....
remus Hello Mel! how are things going with the lawsuit. You emailed me last time that you will tell us all about it in the next chat. I am curiout to hear. I kept my fingers crossed for you all the time.
mel boring Things are going fine, and all over, remus!...
mel boring You'll remember (in the last exciting chapter in September)...
mel boring that I went to court, and that we WON on all three charges against the publisher....
mel boring Of course, as I told you, they appealed the ruling, which is expected....
mel boring But about two weeks later, they called our lawyer saying they wanted to settle without appealing....
mel boring I was ALL for that, but still suspicious. So we kept the appeal response going....
mel boring In the meantime, the publisher DID settle in good faith. And ONLY last Friday did my lawyer call to say that...
mel boring the check was THERE in her office, and would soon be on its way to me....
mel boring THANK YOU to all of you for your concern and interest....
mel boring What I think stopped them from continuing their appeal is...
mel boring that they were ruled against so overwhelmingly in September that they knew they didn't stand a chance. I am R-E-L-I-E-V-E-D!!!
mbvoelker So much good news. Congratulations to all!
mel boring THANK YOU, mbvoelker--there ARE an especial LOT of GOOD NEWSES today! (-:}
mel boring And here is MORE GOOD NEWS, from oma:...
oma I've signed contracts for writing two editions of a mission magazine for GA girls (Girls in Action). It is called GA World. They will be out in December 2004 and July 2005. --my very first paid assignments!
mel boring I know GA WORLD, oma, and that's a great credit--HEARTY CONGRATULATIONS!!!
mel boring Here's a follow-up to our talk about how to make the copyright symbol recently:...
mel boring ESVG speaks an ENCOURAGING word for Mac users, about the copyright symbol: Mel, in response to the question: "t green: Where is the copyright symbol on the computer?" you provided the answer for "MS Windows" users but overlooked the hordes of fanatical Macintosh users. As one might expect, the Macintosh answer is more straight forward as follows. "just strike the 'option +g' keys.
'paste' that.
users informed as well. [I just don't understand
Mac.]-- THANKS, Ed
mel boring THANKS, Ed!...
mel boring I told Ed when I answered his e-mail that I am considering getting a Mac for my NEXT computer....
mel boring With the lawsuit settlement, maybe...hmm!...We'll see!
mel boring Here is a VERY interesting web site sent to me:...
mel boring Nidhi let us know: I found this website (http://www.elance.com/c/cats/main/sellers.pl?rid=TOEQ), where you put a bid for your writing. Look at "Writers and Artists," and "short stories" on the bottom right hand corner. I read their terms and conditions. They ask for all rights ( does "all rights" also mean that your name doesn't go in the by line?). Does this look like a "safe" site to you? If so, we can let our fellow students know, so that can do some bidding for work assignments!
mel boring THANK YOU, Nidhi!!!
mel boring That loooong URL will be in the Open Forum Archives in about an hour, so you can check it out back there.
remus I just sent of my ms. to a paid editor. It feels so strange after four years to be sitting in front of an empty page again and start all over on a new book. Since it is a series I am working on, would you just continue on the next book or wait until the first book gets published? I am not sure if I should put all my energy into this series just to find out that the first book might never get published.
mel boring I'm going to ask for others' advice here, while I offer my own, remus....
mel boring My own thoughts would be that you're in a "happy spot," done with a project, and free to move on....
mel boring I would suggest that, while you have the energy of that first book,...
mel boring and while it's fresh in your memory, that you go on and do the second book of the series you have in mind....
mel boring THEN, if the white page is scarier because it's your "second act" of the play, I would change mind and move onto something entirely new....
mel boring In fact, even if you START on the next volume of the series,...
mel boring it may turn out that it leads so far elsewhere as to become a book on its own, not in the series....
mel boring I'll pass on others' advice as it comes in, since all of us is always smarter than any of us--and CONTRATULATIONS are in order for you, too, remus--having finished that great project!!!
noodle Mel, should I get the 2004 Market Guide? I'm on lesson 3 and
noodle not sure if it would be worthwhile just yet.
mel boring My only suggestion would be that if you can get it into your budget right now, I would get the 2004 Market Guide,...
mel boring which I just got myself recently. But if you need to put it off for a while, your 2003 Market Guide will serve you nearly as well, noodle.
verada Do you need a signed release for adults in photos, or only for children? For instance, a tour guide.
mel boring It would be safest, while you're getting the releases for the children, verada,...
mel boring to get a release from the adult tour guide, I presume you mean....
mel boring It's a case of maybe ending up with more than you'll need, but...
mel boring ending up with LESS than you need could "paint you into a corner."
mel boring GOOD advice from remus about the PC/MAC computer question!:...
remus I switched from a Mac to a PC and I regret it. I worked for 8 years on a Mac and I didn't have any problems. Now I am working on the PC and I had to reinstall the whole system just after 7 months. URGH
mel boring What I've also heard from Mac users, one of whom was...
mel boring the husband of the couple Carol and I visited in BC in September,...
mel boring and he is a writer/photographer, is that his Mac is NOT vulnerable to all the viruses our PCs can get.
mel boring Thanks to Soradina for more good advice:...
soradina Mel, I would advise doing some research about computers before you invest a great deal of money in a new one. There are many computers out there now that you can get for a resonable price that can do just as much or more than the mac and may even be less expensive.
mel boring THANKS, soradina, because COST is definitely a factor for me, too!
mel boring noodle, I think I steered you wrong with my answer about the 2004 Market Guide,...
mel boring but thank goodness here comes t green with a BETTER answer!...
t green noodle should be getting the 2004 guide with hernext section
t green of the lessons
mel boring That's absolutely right, noodle, and THANKS, t green!...
mel boring If your new guide doesn't come as soon as you seem to need it, noodle, DO e-mail your student counselor and tell them.
mel boring remus, here's some other advice:...
katiebug Remus should continue working. Keep positive.
mel boring I THINK that means continue on your SERIES book.
rite 1 Highlights Contest Theme: I've Got a Problem. Would you ..
rite 1 Like, can you have a few people have that problem?
mel boring Yes, I think that would be very acceptable, rite 1, perhaps even advantagous to writing the story!
rite 1 Use the theme as the title?
mel boring I wouldN'T do that, though, rite 1,...
mel boring because probably MANY people will do it, and you want to make your entry as distinctive as possible.
mel boring Here's thankfully MORE about the PC/Mac computer question:...
remus That is very true about the viruses. Remember when the I LOVE YOU virus went around? The Mac cannot read these viruses and they arrive as a numeric page in your email program. So you are completely safe. Besides, you have many more options on the Mac to arrage your desk the way you want it. You are not limited by what the PC gives you.
mel boring THANKS again, remus!
verada Which is correct, a SASE or an SASE? I've seen it both ways in sample cover letters.
mel boring "a SASE" is correct, verada, because the "a" goes before "Self-Addressed,"...
mel boring and because "Self-Addressed" begins with a consonant, it would be "a" instead of "an." THANKS for asking, friend!
mel boring Luvz2rite4kidz wrote to say: My question concerns formatting my mid-grade historical novel manuscript. It has a Contents page and a two-page Author's Note. Do those pages need the standard heading i.e.: left side - Author/Title word, right side - page number? Or do I begin numbering pages on page two of the manuscript as I do with PB manuscripts?
mel boring No, the contents pages doesn't really need the usual heading, Luvz2rite4kidz,...
mel boring but the OTHER pages do, the author's note, and so on....
mel boring By the way, an Author's Note AND a Prologue really need a GOOD reason for an editor to agree to them....
mel boring They are considered "old-fashioned" things not usually done anymore,...
mel boring and they delay the kids getting on with the book....
mel boring So my unasked-for advice would be to make SURE you can justify an Author's Note to an editor, or don't include it.
t green is that highlights contest theme for THIS coming year?
mel boring Yes, it is, t green. I think it was Beth Troop who said last Thursday that it runs during January and February, 2004, and the end date is February 29, 2004--Happy Leap Year, folks!!!
mbvoelker IMO the advantages to the PC are price and software availability. Hard to get an objective comparison because people are so devoted to their choice. ;-)
mel boring You're RIGHT, MB! I remember our son Zack,...
mel boring a few years ago, said he'd NEVER have a Mac, now he's thinking of getting one....
mel boring We are pretty devoted to choices we've already made--AND invested time AND money in, too!
mel boring Spotslover2 is asking: I have a preschool manuscript at STOREYKIDS which the editor is trying to convince her boss to take. It is outside their targeted age range, which is the only reason they wouldn't take it. The editor, Ms. Burns e-mailed me this information back in October. It's been more than a month since I've heard anything, should I wait until the first of the year?
I've written them a book targeted for their age range (8-12). Should I wait until I hear back about the first book, or should I send this book along for their consideration?
mel boring Spotslover2, I would write that editor right away,...
mel boring and even suggest that you might be able...
mel boring to bring the manuscript INSIDE the targeted age of the magazine....
mel boring And I recommend that because it's been (if my math is correct) about six weeks since you've heard from the editor.
mel boring Will you please let us know what you decide, Spotslover2?
mel boring t green asks: I was wondering if it is OK to revise a story and send it to a different magazine for submission. Keys For Kids bought the story, but didn't write anything about buying rights. May I revise it and submit it elsewhere?

mel boring I believe you can, t green. But to be on the safe side, I would write,...
mel boring or e-mail KEYS FOR KIDS and ask them if they'd have any objection. I don't think they would, if they did not contract you for specifics rights.
mel boring CH needs to know: Excuse me for this question, but what does P.O.V. mean? You refer to it often.
mel boring I'm one who is ALWAYS TRYING not to overlook acronyms we commonly use, like POV, expecting everyone knows them....
mel boring So I'm REALLY glad you asked, CH!...
mel boring P.O.V. means "Point of View," or WHOSE viewpoint a story is told from....
mel boring In the Harry Potter books, Harry himself is the P.O.V., or the POV Character, as we sometimes call them...
mel boring That means that EVERYthing in the book is shown from HIS viewpoint.
mel boring Speaking of Harry Potter, here's another GOOD question related to him:...
soradina Mel, I read in Something About the Author that you have a Masters in Divinity degree from Princeton Theological Seminary. I was wondering if in your professional opinion could you comment on the statement that the Harry Potter books do not conform to Christian principles and should be banned from children's reading lists. Thank you.
mel boring What you heard is right, soradina, though friends who know me would probably not call me "divine." (-:}
mel boring What I see in the Harry Potter books conforms to what I feel is the basic Christian principle of LOVE....
mel boring The good people in those books, like Harry himself, and the twins and their parents, and the girl whose name I can never remember,...
mel boring are CARING people, concerned for good, and for the good of the people around them....
mel boring Those good people, of course, are opposed by the evil people of the book,...
mel boring and that is the essence of life as we live it....
mel boring Any good we try to do will be opposed by some; but we do it ANYway because we know it's right....
mel boring What I hear from some people objecting to the Harry Potter books is...
mel boring that they promote witchcraft. But I don't really see that they do, soradina....
mel boring If ANYthing, the books kind of pooh-pooh the idea of witchcraft by making humor of it. And the BEST power of the storyline in those books is NOT the power of witchcraft, but the power of GOOD people struggling to do GOOD in the world for as many people as they can....
mel boring I guess this has turned out sermon-length, and I don't mean to preach....
mel boring Besides that, there is something about J.K. Rowling that I think also figures into the mix here....
mel boring I've told before of how JK befriended a girl in the U.S. a year and a half ago who was dying of an incurable disease....
mel boring JK PHONED and READ the girl the uncompleted latest volume. THAT, to me, speaks VOLUMES of the books' creator--GOOD volumnes. THANKS for asking!
mel boring katiebug wonders: This web site, Poetry.com, gives everyone an opportunity to enter contests and win money every day. They claim to be "by far the largest and most comprehensive poetry site on the Internet." Well, I entered their contest and they sent me a letter telling me that I was one of the finalists. Then they send me another letter telling me I will be published in one of their poetry books with 2 pages all my own-one for my poem and one to write 100 words explaining the poem or a short bio, etc. BUT I have to BUY this book for like I'm not sure if I am honored or being ripped of my Then I just got a letter from Noble House, a publishing office in London, via email, complimenting my poetry (not naming my poem specifically) and offering me a book deal as well that can be all mine with the deposit of This is all just a scam to get my money isn't it? However, does this count towards a published work? Is this just how it works or is someone trying to pull the wool over my eyes by dangling the tantilizing view of my work published in a book?
mel boring You're very wise, katiebug! You're right,...
mel boring and poetry has spawned some of the biggest scams in writing....
mel boring I THINK it's because poems are SHORT to write, and those editors of those books, such as at Noble House,...
mel boring don't have to deal with editing and publishing loooooong stories, just short pieces....
mel boring PLUS, I think MOST people think it's very EASY to write poetry, so it plays a bit upon our vanity....
mel boring I have NEVER felt writing poetry was easy. But those who publish these "books" you mention play upon the fact that most people do....
mel boring The basic rule they break is this: You should be paid for your writing, not pay for it.
mel boring Taggy wants to know: I asked for an update on my article with Appleseeds and was told
What does that mean exactly
mel boring I wanted to be sure to get to this question also because,...
mel boring Taggy had asked it of Beth Troop last Thrusday....
mel boring The word "galley" comes from antique pans that were long, wide and shallow, just an inch or so deep....
mel boring In the OLD days of typesetting, all the letters, and the blockprints for illustrations and such...
mel boring were put in those galley pans. THen the ink was rolled over them and paper pressed on them to make a printed impression....
mel boring Galleys are not used most places anymore, in this electronic time, Taggy,...
mel boring but editors still use that term. They mean that your story or article is being set up for printing, electronic printing today. "In the galleys" is just an expression, although SOME publishers may still be using them.
mel boring MS wrote to ask: Do publishers ever request a re-write on an article or do you just find another publisher for an article in the original form ?

mel boring Publishers DO request rewrites, MS. Beth Troop told us we should ALWAYS respond to an editor returning a piece with ANY advice about it,...
mel boring because they just SELDOM do that, they don't have time....
mel boring So Beth was saying send it BACK revised to that editor....
mel boring AND if you do, and it comes back, it'll be better for the NEXT editor, MS.
mel boring Verada has this question: Does anyone have experience submitting to Children's Writer? I sent them a query by e-mail nine months ago. Since then, I've sent three requests for status (two by e-mail and one by snail mail with an SAS postcard) but have heard nothing. Is this normal for them? And what should I do now?
mel boring I'm going to ask others to reply to this question Verada, because...
mel boring I don't know. My GUESS is that CHILDREN'S WRITER gets so MANY submissions they CAN'T, with short staff, respond to everyone....
mel boring But here's what I'm going to do for next week:...
mel boring I'm going to contact the editor of CW, a good friend of mine, and ask Susan Tierney the same question. I'll report back then.
mel boring imhopeful asks a question I can't answer for sure: If a publisher buys first electronic rights with the option to archive indefinitely, when do the rights revert back to me?
mel boring I've left this question to last, because I can only give a part-answer, imhopeful....
mel boring I THINK the rights revert to you as SOON as the piece goes into the ARCHIVE and off the active-piece list...
mel boring But I suggest you get the "other part" of the answer from the publisher--and let US know too, will you please? That's a VERY interesting question!
mel boring Oh, my, LOOK at the time! I must go before I turn into a pumpkin! THANKS for being here today--see you next Tuesday! And HAPPY HOLIDAYS to you!

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